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Wow.  I cannot believe it has been so long since anybody has… 
21st-Oct-2011 02:13 am
Wow.  I cannot believe it has been so long since anybody has posted, considering all of the political events that have gone on in the past few months.  


This happened while I was on vacation and keeping in touch with the world via the "Facebook News Network" or FNN.  While I am happy to hear he is deceased, I do believe that Al Queda had someone in his proverbial shoes for a long time.  Even so, it made a lot of people happy and Obama look good.


As we all know now, Moammar Gadhafi is dead.  To many, this comes after a summer of middle east protests and unrest.  While I generally thing this is great, I only hope that they have a contingency government planned in place.  Also, I can't stop thinking about what my coworker said: "With all of the civil unrest here, and in the world, is the US next?"  Gotta wonder.


I will ask you this: what are your opinions on Occupy Wall Street?  

Mainly I am posting this to see if anyone on this community is still active on LJ.  But I highly encourage your opinions...
21st-Oct-2011 04:48 pm (UTC) - all over the map.
Yeah, a lot of the political groups have been quiet. Personally as a healer, and the knack of getting too passionate, I tend to avoid the news and debate when ever possible, b/c it turns me into a unpleasant person to be around.

The death of both Osama bin laden and Gadhafi: I'm not sure if I'm happy about this. Personally, if it had happened before the last election or even a little afterwards, I may have been. But my personal views and how I view life are ever changing. While I know that they had it coming, and the wheel turns, it was going to come back around eventually. I'm not happy in the "YES WE GOT'EM" Happiness.

Now Occupy Wall street. Children comes to mind. If you are going to act like children, then you should be treated as children.

The problem w/ Occupy Wall Street, as they see only Wall Street as the problem. It's not just Wall Street, it's the government that granted them the stimulus.

If unrest comes to the United States, it's going to be along time coming. The government and the media have done a fine job polarizing the American people to the point, that we are all yelling at each other, b/c "we are right" and you are obviously wrong, that no one is listening to each other.

I've talked to mainly a Democrat that honestly believes that we have to have laws to ensure that people think the way "we" want them to, and make decisions the way "we" want them to. Of course your opinion matters, but only if it agrees with mine.

When I was doing a massage once, and we were talking, I mentioned that I had lost some good friends in the last election, and the client said, "oh, were they republicans" no I'm the conservative.

I'm honestly trying to tone it down on my blog this time around. But I do have my disclaimer at the top.
22nd-Oct-2011 07:22 pm (UTC)
I think Osama's death shouldn't be attributed to Obama as much as attributed to 10 years of changing how we look at and approach fighting terrorism and gathering intelligence. It could have just as easily happened during Bush II or the next President; we finally got the processes and systems in place and then were able to gather and act on enough intelligence to track him down and go after him. For anyone interested, read Counterstrike: The Untold Story of America's Secret Campaign Against Al Qaeda by Eric Schmitt & Thom Shanker.

Regarding OWS, I think it's far too early to tell. Aside from being relative tiny in terms of numbers (no 'million person marches' yet), there is also no central organization or, more telling, no agreement on what their actual issues are. Unless and until they can coalesce around one or a few issues, and then start suggesting realistic actions and get political leverage, I'm not sure they will go anywhere. I keep on seeing them being compared to the anti-Vietnam War protests or the civil rights movement, but both of these were tightly focused on a single issue and could therefore come up with actions appropriate. Perhaps a closer comparison might be the anti-WTO protests which culminated in the Seattle meeting being shut down but, in the long term, produced no real change.

To quote:
"There's a difference between an emotional outcry and a movement," said Andrew Young, who worked alongside the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. as a strategist during the civil-rights movement and later served as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. "This is an emotional outcry. The difference is organization and articulation."
--- From Veteran activists critique Wall Street protest

And until there is a organization and focus, you get documents like Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! which is prima facie absurd yet, since there is nothing 'official' to replace it with, get press.
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